Jesus Wants to Save Christians: A Manifesto for the Church


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  1. Dan Chance Dan Chance says:

    I just have finished the book and, I confess, I m in way over my pay grade The introduction just begins the discussion with a little story of how our misguided efforts to protect ourselves only manages to further dehumanize us and enslave us leaving little for our known enemies to do that would beinjurious than what we are doing to our society ourselves It really seems to be a digression from the main point of the book unless you can see it in the light of a world system doing all it c I just have finished the book and, I confess, I m in way over my pay grade The introduction just begins the discussion with a little story of how our misguided efforts to protect ourselves only manages to further dehumanize us and enslave us leaving little for our known enemies to do that would beinjurious than what we are doing to our society ourselves It really seems to be a digression from the main point of the book unless you can see it in the light of a world system doing all it can to protect itself from those it has enslaved by its greed It can hardly be denied that those who havethan others, especially if their wealth is achieved by the underpaid or unpaid labor of others make natural targets for the wrath of their victims that has often led to revolutions like that of the Israelites who cried to God because of their cruel treatment and were rescued by his intervention 99% of OUR people are basically slaves, only receiving enough to keep them HOPING that they will be able to vault into the truly privileged 1% that owns 80% of the productive assets of the world People are beginning to cry out as the Israelies did in Egypt and God always hears the cry of the oppressed You can and do mock them because even in their lowly estate they imitate their oppressors by what they own and do within their credit limits Egypt built treasure cities to hold all their wealth and they built them with the labor of slaves Ah but God delivers them and calls them to himself at Sinai for a wedding between himself and all of his people They have been slaves so long they let their fear gain control when they wonder if Moses has died 1 worshiping an idol breaking a commandment they haven t even heard yet and 2 asking Moses to be their go between so God won t kill them After the image and those who made it are destroyed Moses brings back the 2nd set of 10 commandments.God wants them to act as beings made in HIS image but first he has to get them out of some bad habits of thinking about him and themselves from their slave past so he begins by saying 1 Hey Look, there aren t any other gods, masters or lords, so don t venerate and obey any other creature AS god 2 Don t even TRY to depict what I look like because your depiction a creation of yours will receive the honor and praise that you should only give to ME Want to know what I look like Look at yourself I made YOU in MY image YOU are not a slave YOU are a prince and a priest 3 The world will judge ME by how YOU act and I will not hold anyone guiltless who dishonors me by their words or acts 4 Slaves work every day, but you are FREE men and in recognition of this fact you must rest one day every week just as I did when I made the world and you You will call this day the Sabbath and will treat it as a holy day.Then God can begin to address how they are supposed to act in society to bring honor to his name as a natural consequence of being faithful priests , first to those close to them then to others Honor your father and mother, respect and obey them, so they are never forced by your rebellious behavior to bring you to the elders to be stoned to death Don t murder Don t steal Don t lie Don t desire to have take what belongs to someone else Don t commit adultery.With the basics taken care of God begins to reveal his plan of redeeming all of mankind by changing the way people treat the lawbreaker, the foreigner, the widow, the orphan, the servant and the poor Former slaves are being taught how to act so they will not become to others like the Egyptians were to them haughty, heartless, unforgiving, overbearing, and cruel Does God expect the lawbreaker to be treated with respect Yes Deuteronomy 25 3 but the judge must not imposethan forty lashes If the guilty party is floggedthan that, your fellow Israelite will be degraded in your eyes God fulfilled his promise, settling Israel in its land but Israel did not do what it promised Moses and God at Sinai Israel took up the ways of Egypt and empire and God being true to his word, heard the cry of their downtrodden, and sent them BACK into captivity, shame and slavery first under Babylon, then Assyria and finally Rome at the time of Christ Christ came as a servant, not as a king He rode into Jerusalem on a gentle donkey not a war horse His apostles didn t get it until they will filled with the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost that he was not restoring the empire of David or Solomon but though them was restoring the perfect righteousness of HIS rule in the lives of men Once again we drifted away into a cloistered, venerated, wealthy, corrupt priesthood and blind, needy enslaved people Some are still crying and waiting for our exodus while the Pharaohs in our society growpowerful and wealthy Some don t know they are part of Pharaoh s supporters and plan for expensive remodeling of church buildings when almost 1 in 5 of their neighbors is desperately poor This is not good stewardship in God s kingdom


  2. John John says:

    I m still kind of waiting for the substance, like maybe if I keep thinking about what I read it will be revealed to me Perhaps I m being a little mean, but this book, though given the honorable task of calling Christians back to Christ, attempts this by making naive and indefensible generalizations about politics and history of which I happen to be a student through the lens of an only less naive interpretation of the Bible not that I m a scholar which quite happily leaves out things lik I m still kind of waiting for the substance, like maybe if I keep thinking about what I read it will be revealed to me Perhaps I m being a little mean, but this book, though given the honorable task of calling Christians back to Christ, attempts this by making naive and indefensible generalizations about politics and history of which I happen to be a student through the lens of an only less naive interpretation of the Bible not that I m a scholar which quite happily leaves out things like Jesus overturning the tables of the money changers, seeming acceptance of slavery as a social fact, etc My complaint also stems from something typical of Bell and other emergent church types pure deconstructionism criticism without any building back up Of course, Bell says we are supposed to havefaith and rely less on theological systems and so forth, but Bell s answers to how do we then live, or understand God seem to be, well, read the bible and look at how nice Jesus is But EVERYONE already knows how nice Jesus is Even Nietzsche was able to like Christ if not Christianity Just do whatever feels good, man If it doesn t feel good, it s not from God This sounds like something a stuffy old man would write about the youth, but my point is that I wanted a book that would plot a course, but it really was just kind of a high floating sermon, and fairly preachy, too.All this being said, it s a good book for someone new to these areas and will appeal to many people on the verge of becoming Christians or those who just want to find an outlet for the anger they have against the sins of the church If I had read this 6 years ago I may have found it to be a little bitcompelling As it is, I ve been reading the Sickness Unto Death by Kierkegaard as I read Bell s book, and what I ve found is that Kierkegaard haslessons to teach Christians than any emergent church writer, and you can go ahead and throw the lessons of the Reformation on top of that Kierkegaard gives a much different attitude towards people s feelings He would ask Where is the masculinity of Christianity, it s defiance against what people want, it s demand for perfection and honor, it s requirement of the subservience a knight owes to his king Bell might answer we need to present God in such a way that everyone would agree with him without any offense


  3. Lars Lars says:

    If you are not inspired to live like Jesus over and above living like an American after reading this book, you either completely missed the point or have some serious issues with syncretism to work out.That said, Rob Bell paints a beautiful, poetic manifesto for all the reviewers complaining about how short the book was, perhaps a healthy understanding of expectations coming in would have been worthwhile that far surpasses even his brilliant Velvet Elvis Bell says so much in so few words, If you are not inspired to live like Jesus over and above living like an American after reading this book, you either completely missed the point or have some serious issues with syncretism to work out.That said, Rob Bell paints a beautiful, poetic manifesto for all the reviewers complaining about how short the book was, perhaps a healthy understanding of expectations coming in would have been worthwhile that far surpasses even his brilliant Velvet Elvis Bell says so much in so few words, cutting through the heady theology and allowing Jesus to pierce the heart of His followers to wake up and get it.Bell s book is framed around the idea that Jesus is not only saving the world,but saving US.You and me.In America.From the kingdom of comfort.From the pursuit of power.From the priority of preservation.From the empire of indifference.From an exile of irrelevance.If the Church is to regain her authority in the world instead of settling for the preponderance of power in political realms, then it will be necessary to follow the urgings of Jesus and the trajectory of all human experience encapsulated and emulated in YHWH s deliverance of His people from bondage in the exodus from enslavement to liberation, from power to authority, and from despairing comfort to sacrificial hope.Jesus Wants to Save Christians is the perfect manifesto for that journey


  4. whichwaydidshego whichwaydidshego says:

    I think this is probably a lower rating than it deserves, but I read it directly after another book of his which was positively impacting Also, I am reading this many years and deep revelations for Mr Bell after having written it Good insights,though I just think both he and I have moved farther down the path I do wish I would have found this earlier in my journey I would have known I wasn t alone.


  5. Steve Steve says:

    Once again, Rob Bell is crossing the line of the conservative, American Christian mindset And once again, I can only imagine the militaristic agenda he denounces will undoubtedly be aimed at him from within the Church That s why I love this book and it s Biblical, providing a good slap in the face to dissenters.


  6. Jeff Jeff says:

    Wow This is a book that every American Christian needs to read I ve read some reviews that complain that this is really just a written sermon, and, while I agree, I have to ask why that s a problem Sometimes we need to be told, shown, reminded, preached to about what s important That s what this book does If the majority of Christians acted on the sermon in this book, Western Christianity might would regain the credibility it has almost completely lost over the course of the past 40 o Wow This is a book that every American Christian needs to read I ve read some reviews that complain that this is really just a written sermon, and, while I agree, I have to ask why that s a problem Sometimes we need to be told, shown, reminded, preached to about what s important That s what this book does If the majority of Christians acted on the sermon in this book, Western Christianity might would regain the credibility it has almost completely lost over the course of the past 40 or 50 years when it decided to forsake its mission and instead pursue political power at all costs The subtitle of this book is important, but may be lost on the majority of Christians who don t realize that the church IS in exile.My only concern with this book is that many Christians will perhaps mistake it as a WE can save the world manifesto it might be perceived as incorrectly arguing that all we need to do is work hard for social justice and the world will be bright, shiny, and new again Of course, we can and MUST make the world better for the oppressed, but the only final and perfect solution is Christ s return I m not saying that this book is arguing AGAINST this point, but rather that it doesn t really make it And the book is correct in implying that too often Christians don t act as Christians are commanded to do because of our laissez faire attitude that all we have to do is wait for Jesus to come and fix everything


  7. Ben Zajdel Ben Zajdel says:

    Second time reading this, still good, still surprisingly relevant.


  8. Caitlin Elliott Caitlin Elliott says:

    I had never read this book before, but a lot of what Bell is getting at here feels like it could ve been written for 2019 instead of 2008 when it was published Very insightful.


  9. Phil Whittall Phil Whittall says:

    Jesus wants to save Christians is Rob Bell s he of the Noomas and Velvet Elvis third and probably most substantial book, co authored with Don Golden from World Relief.Its subtitle A Manifesto for the church in exile neatly encapsulates the heart of the book Church shouldn t be about empire and in the USA it is Church should be about the mission of God which is calling people and creation out of exile slavery to sin and into the new reality of God s purposes.The book isn t long, 181 pages Jesus wants to save Christians is Rob Bell s he of the Noomas and Velvet Elvis third and probably most substantial book, co authored with Don Golden from World Relief.Its subtitle A Manifesto for the church in exile neatly encapsulates the heart of the book Church shouldn t be about empire and in the USA it is Church should be about the mission of God which is calling people and creation out of exile slavery to sin and into the new reality of God s purposes.The book isn t long, 181 pages and only slightlywords As ever stylishly produced, the cover is definitely intriguing There s lots of white space because Rob writesin an interesting way,that is supposed to make you pauseand realise how importantthat last sentence really was.Which after a while, gets a bit annoying and to my mind eventually just seems a bit pointless Overplay your hand and a great writing device just seems to be a bit gimmicky But these quibbles aside this book has greater substance than his previous two and will no doubt continue to polarise opinion Republican Christians I imagine are not going to like his sincere questioning of America s use and misuse of power Reformed Christians are not going to like the lack of wrath as Bell describes the atonement and so onFirstly, because the first section is telling the story of the Bible this feels adeeply scriptural book, there s lots of scripture here This is good, we re engaging with the text The arguments will be about interpretation.There are some interesting connections made that I m not sure about, do the 3000 saved on Pentecost in Acts really mirror the 3000 killed after the Golden Calf incident Was the gentile Luke really that clued in Not sure, but it s an interesting idea.Bell seems to see Jesus as our great representative, so his blood reconciles, rescues and redeems, it does when we trust in it, save us from exile and slavery to sin But there s nothing here on justice, holiness etcThe two dominant themes are exodus exile and Eucharist The Church should be on an exodus to a new reality, calling people out of exile The Church as the body of Christ should be broken and poured out for the poor and the needy of the world Remember the poor and don t be seduced by the empire.As a call to be involved in the needs of the world this book works well and on that level I commend it As a retelling and subverting of a story that gives churches rights and standing in the Empire, I applaud it Sentences like The authority that the church has in culture does not come from how right, cool, or loud it is, or how convinced it is of its doctrinal superiority hit the mark and do so often.But I just wonder if it s all been done better elsewhere Shane Claiborne attacks empire withverve and bite, NT Wright informs us of exile and exodus with greater depth and insight, Ron Sider calls us out on poverty with greater authority.This is a good book, if you don t know that God cares for the poor or your teenagers are a bit too self obsessed then give them this It s cool enough and punchy enough and short enough to work But as a manifesto it lacks real depth there s not much on practical application here, no stories to get us thinking, no actions to follow other than to hear the cry of the oppressed and do something which is helpful only to a point.It couldhave beenso much


  10. Longfellow Longfellow says:

    Jesus Wants to Save Christians is a well chosen, provoking title which accurately hints at its central focus, which is that in many ways the church and particularly the church in America has lost sight of what it means to live life in the way Jesus charged us Beyond this, however, Bell and Golden appear to have written a testimony intended for an audience beyond Christians even simple contextual points that are familiar to most Christians are observed and their relevance explained.This easy to Jesus Wants to Save Christians is a well chosen, provoking title which accurately hints at its central focus, which is that in many ways the church and particularly the church in America has lost sight of what it means to live life in the way Jesus charged us Beyond this, however, Bell and Golden appear to have written a testimony intended for an audience beyond Christians even simple contextual points that are familiar to most Christians are observed and their relevance explained.This easy to read, thesis driven book spends its first chapters looking at the repeating cycle of exile and redemption throughout the Bible The repeating elements the authors draw our attention to are quite important to their purpose, which is in part to look at the whole narrative arc of the Bible as one unified and self referential story And they do a good job an awareness of the intent of the writers of both the Old and New Testaments consistently shows the text is neither difficult nor time consuming and the book is worth the time it takes to be awakened to or reminded of the connections Bell and Golden emphasize and the significance of these connections regarding the divine plan for humanity.The second thrust of the book focuses on the angle that the cycles of exile and redemption occur within the context of the power of empire over groups of oppressed peoples Currently, America fits quite obviously into the category of empire and, consequently, participates broadly in the oppression of many peoples and groups.The church, however, has a message of redemption for these oppressed peoples and groups This message cannot be delivered from the position of empire the only way to deliver this message is to become weak, to stand beside those who are oppressed, to live as Jesus lived, broken and poured We, the church, are Eucharist


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  • Paperback
  • 240 pages
  • Jesus Wants to Save Christians: A Manifesto for the Church in Exile
  • Rob Bell
  • English
  • 15 November 2019
  • 0062125826

About the Author: Rob Bell

Rob Bell is a bestselling to Save PDF ☆ author, international teacher, and highly sought after public speaker His books include The New York Jesus Wants PDF/EPUB or Times bestsellers What Is the Bible , What We Talk About When We Talk About God, Love Wins, as well as Wants to Save PDF/EPUB æ The Zimzum of Love, Velvet Elvis, Sex God, Jesus Wants to Save Christians, and Drops Like Stars At age , Bell founded Mars Hill Bible Church in Michigan, and under his leadership it was one of the fastest growing churches in America In , he was profiled in Time Magazine as one of their most influential people Rob was featured on Oprah s Life You Want Tour and will be speaking at venues around the world in on the Everything is Spiritual Tour He and his wife Kristen have three children and live in Los Angeles.